Between Things: The Point(e) of Love

Next episode is just around the corner, so time for another rundown of Things we’ve gotten to in the meantime. Adri’s taking care of this month’s post, and Pay will take on the next. As per usual with OYTT, spoilers ahead.

Cover of "Daughter of Mystery" by Heather Rose Jones
Look at that fabric. So red. So sexy. So flammable.

Daughter of Mystery by Heather Rose Jones

I am still in full Romance novel mode, it seems. I was super stoked about this book. I heard the author on Smart Podcast, Trashy Books where she was discussing queer women relationships in historical romance and the different considerations you have to take into account. She made a lot of interesting points, so knew I had to check out her work. This is a historical romance which has an interesting world of magic that’s tied into Christianity, particularly the role of Saints, which was a cool mix. The writing style is very descriptive and not reliant on dialogue, which goes well with the setting. I can imagine a family gathering around the fireplace in the drawing room and someone reading a chapter aloud for the after-dinner entertainment. The romance aspect is a pretty slow burn and not of the steamy sort. There is plenty of political and personal intrigue here too, not least of which is one of our heroines having a mysterious past she doesn’t know. This is one in a series, and I think I’ll check out the rest when I get a chance.

Cover of "Secrets of a Summer Night" by Lisa Kleypas as seen in the Libby app.
Shout out to the Libby app for adjusting the background to match the covers.

Secrets of a Summer Night by Lisa Kleypas

This is the first in the Wallflowers series. The Wallflowers are four women on the hunt for a husband in 19th-century English society, but for various reasons they’ve been relegated to be wallflowers: too old, too desperate, too shy, too brash/American. The Wallflowers make a pact to help each other find husbands. This first one focuses on Annabelle whose father has died and whose financial situation becomes progressively more dire. In her mid-twenties, she’s practically over-the-hill in terms of courting, so this is her last season to make a match or face ruin. They set up her eventual romance with Simon from the get go, so there’s more of a when-will-they rather than a will-they-won’t-they. Much to my surprise, they get married much sooner than I expected and not really purely for love, which was an interesting change from what I usually read. We actually get to see the post-marriage life and how they come to be partners in love and life once the honeymoon is over. And dang, this. book. gets. sexy. If that’s your kind of thing, this delivers. I’ve already checked out the next one, so I will definitely be reading the whole series.

DVD of "Point Break" with a figure of K-2SO
The ending gets to K-2SO every time.

Point Break

How had I not seen Point Break yet? Well, I guess technically I’d seen the one clip they show in Hot Fuzz. Still, this movie is so iconic it seems crazy I let it slip for so long. Long story short: Heck, yes! I had a real good time watching this movie. Finally hearing Keanu’s “Vaya con Dios” in real time, the multiple skydiving scenes, Patrick Swayze in his most cult leader-like role. And Lori Petty! Why didn’t anyone tell me she was in this? I would’ve watched it ages ago if I knew that. Tank Girl forever! I must admit I was not an ounce sober when I watched this, which definitely enhanced the experience. I will say that my one complaint is that there could’ve been more time spent on the Keanu/Swayze relationship. Their growing bromance is so important in the end but you barely see them interact with each other in the grand scheme. When that scene where Keanu shoots in the air rather than at Swayze came in, it seems out of nowhere and a severe change of heart considering they’ve only hung out a couple times by that point and Keanu didn’t actually see Swayze’s face. As much as I love Lori, they spent too much time on the romantic relationship here. I hear there was a remake, but I doubt they address this issue and instead just added more stunts and sexy lady time. Part of me wishes we’d saved this one for the podcast. Maybe we can revisit it for a special episode…

DVD of "Grosse Pointe Blank" in front of a radio
Remember when 10-year reunions were a thing people cared about?

Grosse Pointe Blank

I’ve gotten to the point where I’ll watch a movie from the ’90s and am the same age as (or older than) the main actor. But there is something about the time period where I still think they look older than me. Part of it I’m guessing is purely psychological, but another part has to be ’90s fashion and styling. It’s not so bad in this movie, but in other its so aging and unflattering. I feel the same way about the ’80s. Anyway, the point is, John Cusack and Minnie Driver look old to me in this movie even though they are clearly young. It’s a weird phenomenon. Also this movie was great. What a sleeper! I went into it completely without context and was not expecting to come out liking it as much as I did. If I’d read the DVD box maybe I wouldn’t have been surprised that Cusack is a hitman who is still in love with his high school sweetheart. Even though some of the plot points were predictable, it was fun to see how everything came together. If I had seen this in high school, I definitely would’ve wanted to be Minnie Driver. Though the whole radio DJ in a display window thing always freaks me out when I see it. During my short radio career, I was more of a basement goblin. Now I’ve upgraded to a dining room/closet goblin. What an upgrade!

Next episode drops in June. Don’t forget to subscribe and we’re always looking for new Things to try. Send those suggestions in!

Episode 02 : Seven Deadly Gone Girls

Episode 02? Well, would you look at that follow-through! We’re pretty darn proud of ourselves.

When it takes a long time to finally get around to a movie, it’s pretty tough to avoid spoilers. So for this episode we picked two movies where we had already heard the twist or ending. By chance, the movies we picked were both directed by David Fincher, so we’ve got a Double Theme episode, y’all. [Insert Jamaican Air Horn here]

First up we have Seven, a classic tale of an ol’ retiring cop/young cop stuck with a crazy ass case. At this point, everyone knows what’s in the box, but no one ever really talks about how it gets there so the spoilers weren’t too much of an issue for this one. That being said, we’re pretty sure neither of us will watch this one again. Zodiac is a better option.

Ah, murder in the name of teaching people humans are disgusting.

Second up we have Gone Girl, the movie that garbage men use as evidence that all women in the real world are manipulative bitches. Why can’t we just enjoy a sociopath villain who uses the fact that she’s a woman to her benefit? Why can’t we have nice things?

Shout out to the cinematographer and art director, because dang, that’s a good-lookin’ movie.

This was an interesting one to discuss. Pay knew the twist because she had read the book, while Adri had received the spoiler second-hand, a difference which definitely affected the viewing experience. Either way, this is one where we felt knowing the end did make a difference. Also, Nick is a total dum-dum. How is he such a dummy? Just at every turn doing the dumbest shit. It’s baffling.

A few highlights:

  • What tips does Pay have for getting a free movie ticket?
  • How many times can we say “ugh” in reaction to women being treated terribly?
  • Which murder disturbed us the most?
  • What would our theme be if we were serial killers?
  • Who does Adri mix up with David Fincher every dang time?

We also briefly discuss the pleasure of watching crafting videos, and everyone should check out Crafsman. That dude rules.

Cabachon? Papa John? Cabachon.

Episode 01 – Phantom of the Kissing Booth

Oh, boy! What a way to start!

Pay’s Thing this episode is Phantom of the Paradise, a movie she just hadn’t seen yet. This was genuinely surprising since Adri fucking.loves.this.movie.

Phantom of the Paradise poster, French DVD, Blu-Ray, vinyl soundtrack
Not pictured are the VHS and CD, or Adri’s Phantom-inspired tattoo. Also not pictured is an original theater poster this replica is based on because someone outbid Adri for it in 2007. She’s totally not bitter.

In fact, her love of this movie has existed almost as long as this friendship. She just never brought it to a dang movie sleepover. (Those were mostly saved for DCOMs and Degrassi: the Next Generation.) Long overdue, Adri was excited to hear what Pay thought.

A few highlights:

  • One time, Adri met Paul Williams and managed not to freak out. (Bonus fact: Paul wanted to take a selfie, but Adri didn’t have a phone capable of such a thing.)
  • Could there ever be a remake that would actually be good? Who is the perfect Phantom? Who would be the best Swan?
  • Is there a person on this earth who is as powerful as Swan? (Yes, she exists.)

There is so much more we could’ve discussed about the history of this movie, but we just couldn’t get to it all. And we probably got a couple facts wrong, so we highly recommend The Swan Archives if you’re interested in more about the movie. (Adri has certainly spent countless hours on that site over the years…)

Elle is caught between the two most important men in her life: a hot maniac who needs therapy and a floppy-haired, DDR knock-off expert.

Adri’s Thing this episode is The Kissing Booth, a teen romantic comedy that Netflix surprisingly didn’t suggest for her. Luckily Pay had seen it and knew there was plenty to say about this dang movie.

As it turns out, there are only a few movies that Pay likes enough to force others to watch… and Adri’s seen them all. Boo. So, what’s almost as fun as movies that are good and enjoyable to watch? Movies that are bad and enjoyable to watch, of course. In came The Kissing Booth, a delightfully mediocre movie that gave Pay’s eyeballs such a good workout that she just had to share.

A few highlights:

  • Check out the trailer and experience the majority of this movie’s “plot” in less than 3 minutes!
  • Please help us solve this episode’s biggest mystery: Are Lee and Noah’s parents Hollywood’s most prolific porn producers?
  • Below, Pay actually solves this episode’s second biggest mystery: Just how long does it take for two teens to get from their mansions in the Hollywood Hills to an arcade on the Santa Monica pier?